Can we stop pretending that Rick Santorum is a fiscal conservative?
Back in 2008, Jonah Goldberg explained that Mike Huckabee’s brand of conservatism was inconsistent with traditional conservatism, in that the former Arkansas Governor believes that government exists, not to protect individual liberty, but to make people live moral lives in accordance with his personal beliefs:
When it comes to economic issues, [Mike Huckabee] is hard to distinguish from all sort of different brands of liberals. He is hostile to free trade. He is very friendly to raising taxes. He believes in regulation wherever necessary. He thinks abortion must remain a federal national issue, can’t send it back to the states. And that’s what I mean by “right-wing progressive.” He wants to use government towards conservative ends. He says it’s a biblical duty to fight global warming. The problem with someone like Huckabee is that he much like, in my mind, a liberal sees no dogmatic constitutional limits on the “do-goodery” of the federal government. Whatever he thinks is the right thing for the federal government to do, if he thinks there’s a good thing that can be done by the federal government, he wants the federal government to do it whether it’s constitutional or in accordance with principles of limited government. And maybe what he wants to isn’t what a cultural liberal would want to do but he still wants to use the government the same way. It’s big government conservatism. And that, I think, is the real threat these days to conservatism.
While Rick Santorum doesn’t have the record of supporting tax hikes that Tax Hike Mike had or some of the other points listed above — though some of the do apply, he certainly has a record of backing certain social policies based upon the notion that government exists to ensure a certain behavior from its citizens or fiscal policies based on the odd notion that he believes in “some government”; a dig at the growing libertarian influence in the conservative movement.
On the fiscal and regulatory side of the equation, Santorum doesn’t even come close to having a record worthy of Tea Party support (unfortunately, they are picking him over other candidates in the race. He may not have supported tax hikes like Huckabee, but the spending he voted — including budget deficits and expanding Medicare by $9 trillion — will no doubt lead to tax hikes down the road. Philip Klein explained yesterday that many of the votes and positions Santorum’s yesterday doesn’t come close to sharing the views of Tea Party-minded voters:
Rick Santorum has surged back into contention for the Republican presidential nomination because of persistent reservations among conservatives about Mitt Romney. But those on the right who embrace Santorum as an alternative should do so with no illusions. To his credit, Santorum did not support the kind of mandate and subsidize approach to health care as Romney, but as Senator, he still voted like a big government Republican on many occasions. Some of this had to do with being a loyal soldier during the Bush era, when he backed the Medicare prescription drug plan and No Child Left Behind. But a lot of it had to do with his parochialism.
As a Senator from Pennsylvania, Santorum took earmarks, pushed a support program for dairy farmers, sided with unions and backed steel tariffs. In these instances, when free market principles clashed with local concerns, he abandoned limited government conservatives.
A year ago, I asked Santorum about his support for dairy subsidies.
“(T)he milk program, compared to Social Security and all the entitlement programs was a small program about an industry that was struggling in America — the small farmer in that part of the country,” he told me. “My feeling is, sure, we can have a milk program that has a concentration of milk into big super duper farms in the South and in the West, and we will continue to see the deterioration of rural Pennsylvania, rural New York, and other rural areas. And if people are fine with that, that’s fine. I think there’s something to be said for having viable businesses in that part of the country to compete.”
Whatever can be said about such a position, it is not the free market position.
And during the January 7th New Hampshire ABC/Yahoo debate, when Rep. Ron Paul, R-Tex., has challenged Santorum for being a big spender who sided with against “right to work” laws, he once again cited local concerns.
“Ron, I’m a conservative,” Santorum shot back. “I’m not a libertarian. I believe in some government. I do believe that government has — that as a senator from Pennsylvania that I had a responsibility to go out there and represent the interests of my state. And that’s what I did to make sure that Pennsylvania was able, in formulas and other things, to get its fair share of money back.”
He also defended his vote against “right to work” again in CNN’s Jan. 19 South Carolina debate.
“I’ve already signed a pledge and said I would sign a national right to work bill,” he said. “And when I was a senator from Pennsylvania, which is a state that is not a right to work state, the state made a decision not to be right to work. And I wasn’t going to go to Washington and overturn that from the federal government and do that to the state.”
Over at Aces of Spades, Gabriel Malor chided Tea Party-minded voters for backing Santorum given what we know about his fiscal record:
Santorum has surged among Republican voters who as recently as 2010 claimed to oppose earmarks, big government, and over-regulation. Once upon a time they also wanted to reform entitlement and welfare programs and to curtail government meddling in the free market. Yes, I’m talking about the Tea Party, and, yes, this gets right back to my point that inconsistent voters will behave inconsistently (and therefore get no respect).
Rick Santorum passionately defends earmarks, even today. There has been no come-to-Jesus moment for the unrepentant former Senator and Congressman, who during his 16 years inside the Beltway racked up a $1 billion in earmarks. During that time, Santorum sided with Democrats to block cuts to federally-funded food stamps programs and to raise the minimum wage. He sought (and got) money for “green” projects in Pennsylvania and, among numerous other wasteful votes, voted for the Bridge to Nowhere.
Tea Partiers, you have some ‘splainin’ to do. I know, I know. You don’t like Romney because you only think he’s saying what you want to hear. Now, I don’t believe that, but explain to me how Romney preaching fiscal conservatism is worse than Santorum, who isn’t even pretending to support it.
Here he is in a 2006 campaign video (you know, the year he lost badly) saying the Bush 43 White House probably called him a lot of names because he fought their efforts to cut Amtrak funding. His mailer that year touted a great many big government achievements, including this notable brag:
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Just what was the Gas Affordability and Security Act of 2006? Let’s look.
- Criminalizes conduct that’s already a crime under both state and federal law.
- Establishes a federal task force within the FTC to help state AGs prosecute oil and gas companies.
- Authorizes the Secretary of Energy to award funding for an ultra-low sulfur diesel plant.
- Creates a tax credit for teleworking and encourages federal employees to telework.
Doesn’t sound very conservative to me. The GAS Act had all the hallmarks of the big government excess the Tea Party was trying to get away from in 2009 and 2010: new redundant federal criminal laws, federal commissions, picking winners and losers in the energy market, and, um, teleslacking federal employees.
The only two conclusions I can draw from this is that the anti-Romney faction in the Republican electorate will so blindly follow whoever is deemed to be their “guy” at the moment that they don’t care about his economic statism. The only thing that matters to them is he’s “not Mitt Romney.” That’s both foolish and hypocritical.
The other is that the Tea Party movement has been completely overrun with social conservatives. If that’s the case, Republicans will lose this election, and lose it badly. That’s not to say that social conservatives can’t be fiscal conservatives, rather fiscal issues must come first in this election.
Yes, I know that the contraception issue has somewhat reinvigorated social conservatives. They were understandibly upset about the policy handed down from the Obama Administration. I happened to agree with them, though I’m rarely in their corner.
Santorum’s social conservatism is going to turn away independent voters. For example, his strange rant against contraceptives is going to sound nutty and unserious to many on-the-fence voters in swing states. And national polls show that voters are now supportive of gay marriage, which Santorum vigoriously opposes.
This is the bed that Republicans have made. The idea that Santorum would be any better on fiscal issues than Romney is absurd. They’re both fiscal moderates that aren’t going to change the culture of waste in Washington
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I don’t think anyone is pretending that Rick Santorum has been ideologically pure in the area of fiscal conservatism. They are merely arguing that his is more fiscally conservative and closer to Tea Party movement ideals than Gingrich or Romney. I don’t think I have to enumerate the reasons why Santorum is more acceptable to someone interrested in limited government than either of those two.
Ron Paul is another matter entirely. The overwhelming majority of the Republican Party finds him an unacceptable candidate for reasons too obvious to be worth rehashing. Not all, but an overwhelming majority. Many of those flocking to support him were not Republicans till he ran as a Republican, and when he is no longer running, they will go back to being Libertarians, independents, or what-have-you.
If you want to argue that Ron Paul is more pure in his limited government stance, I don’t think anyone in their right mind would disagree with you. Most people voting in the Republican primaries have written him off the list entirely for reasons that you will probably never agree with them on. Sorry, that’s just how it is. Santorum isn’t the perfect candidate, just the best choice remaining to them in light of all the issues that are of importance to them, not just fiscal conservatism. That’s why he didn’t surge till now.
The party system, an extraconstitutional construct that the Founders warned us to avoid, is partly to blame for your frustration… but only partly. The simple fact of the matter is that there aren’t very many people who agree with Ron Paul’s foreign policy stance in the electorate, and they feel that it presents enough of a danger to national security that they feel compelled to disregard how perfectly he aligns with their values in other areas. At the end of the day, Libertarians just don’t have the votes and there’s no getting around that till you convince more people that your position is the right one.
I don’t think I have to enumerate the reasons why Santorum is more acceptable to someone interrested in limited government than either of those two.
Please do. I ask because I have little reason to believe that he’s even remotely interested in limited government. His deeds and his words through the year have shown me something very, very different and would LOVE to see reasons why he would somehow be better than the other two.
I notice a subtle difference in how you phrased your question from how I phrased my statement. You are asking me to prove that Santorum is “even remotely interested”, whereas I implied that it was self evident that he was more so than Romney or Gingrich.
As for “proving” his “interest”, you know very well that such a thing cannot be proven. He has at least stated his allegiance, which is more than Romney has done. The very article I am replying to concedes that he has made at least *some* votes on a fiscally conservative line. I would argue that he has made at least as many fiscally conservative votes as he has fiscally liberal votes. Go check with CATO or Heritage Foundation or look at his voting record yourself. Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but hardly terrible.
Despite what is implied in so many articles on this site, the unions have small love for him:
http://www.votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/27054/rick-santorum/43
If nothing else, his past flirtations with enemy should have taught him by now that such overtures will get him nowhere with that constituency. Perhaps that’s why he talks a much more constitutional game now than he did before. I suppose, however, that it’s possible he is doing nothing more than triangulating. If that were so, it would hardly be a reason to go with either Romney (who isn’t even bothering to sound conservative) or Gingrich (who has repeatedly proven he is a Progressive).
I could quibble with the cherry-picking of the points laid out here against Santorum and with the light they are portrayed in, but I won’t bother because they are substantively accurate. I don’t draw quite the same conclusion from the facts laid out, but facts they remain. I am merely trying to offer some perspective.
I don’t think it would be fruitful to go into the reasons I can’t vote for Paul in this forum. It would be distracting from the topic, so I won’t. I cannot vote for Romney in the primary because his words and actions, even now when he is courting the conservative vote, show me that he accepts how Progressives have framed the argument. He thinks, like much of the Republican establishment, that winning elections is an exercise in triangulation, obfuscation, and moderation.
Reagan understood that conservative principles only appear to advantage when unalloyed. Once upon a time the media spoke of Reagan the way they speak of Bachmann now: the “amiable Dunce”, the far-right crazy who would land us in a nuclear war or a constitutional crisis almost overnight if elected. The establishment crowd said that nominating him virtually assured that Carter would win reelection. His “voodoo economics” would not appeal to the center and without the center he would lose.
He won in a landslide. Twice. Registered Democrats voted for him. Twice. Why? Because he articulated conservative principles and didn’t back down. You can’t out-Democrat a Democrat so it’s best not to try. Reason is only vanquished when it makes concessions to unreason.
So, then, why not Gingrich? He’s great at articulating conservative principles! Sure. I love watching him tear the mainstream media to shreds just as much as anyone. And then he attacks Mitt Romney from the left when it’s politically expedient and shows me he didn’t really believe any of it. Gingrich, admirer of Wilson and FDR, self-described “Teddy Roosevelt Republican”, is no conservative. He’s a traditionalist Progressive who is mostly in love with himself. He speaks my language when it suits his purposes, and then he treats me like a cheap date. He is, as another has pointed out, the Republican Party’s Clinton. I will not vote for him. Not even against Obama. I’ll vote Libertarian or Constitution Party first.
That whole “King of Bain” episode was highly illustrative of the character of the candidates. All have been heterodox in the past where Constitutional principles are concerned, but Santorum showed me that his conversion was more than skin deep when he refused to join Perry and Gingrich in their attacks on Romney’s private sector success.
I’d root for a brokered convention if I had even a sliver of hope it would end up nominating Marco Rubio. Alas, that is highly unlikely, so I’ll hold my nose for Mr. Sweater Vest. You can continue to point out his past heresies if you like. It won’t change my vote. All I object to is the assertion that there is some rush to pronounce him a true fiscal conservative. Santorum isn’t rising in the polls because he is duping the Republican base. He is rising only because he’s the last option we’ve got. Furthermore, he is more likely to beat Obama than Romney because he articulates conservative principles better. He’s no Reagan, but he’s also no Dole.
[blockquote]I notice a subtle difference in how you phrased your question from how I phrased my statement. You are asking me to prove that Santorum is “even remotely interested”, whereas I implied that it was self evident that he was more so than Romney or Gingrich.[/blockquote]
I asked you no such thing. I am simply rejecting your argument that it’s even remotely “self evident”. Reread my post and quote where I said jack about “proving” anything. Why didn’t I? Because you can’t prove any such thing, but I do want some support for your assertion.
And your long diatribe here? Didn’t do a thing to support the assertion that he’s more interested in small government than Romney or Gingrich. Not a thing. In fact, asserting how he won with Democrats may actually hurt your point with some folks. So, thanks for playing.
Let’s not get testy. You were asking me to prove it, in so many words. That is what evidence is intended to accomplish, after all.
“Small love” is an idiomatic phrase indicating that the Unions don’t like him much at all, not that he has in any way “won with Democrats”. I asserted no such thing. The only Democrat votes I am interested in winning are those achieved through persuasion rather than placation.
So, you want evidence. Very well… Here you go:
http://www.conservative.org/ratings/ratingsarchive/2006/2006senate.htm
http://www.conservative.org/ratings/ratingsarchive/2005/2005senate.htm
http://www.conservative.org/ratings/ratingsarchive/2004/2004senate.htm
http://www.conservative.org/ratings/ratingsarchive/2003/2003senate.htm
http://www.conservative.org/ratings/ratingsarchive/2002/2002senate.htm
http://www.conservative.org/ratings/ratingsarchive/2001/2001senate.htm
You can look at the previous years as well. Feel free to check CATO, Heritage Foundation, or check the raw vote info at senate.gov. For the record, I do not agree with ACU’s assessment of all of these votes. There are at least a few cases where I feel that their definition of a “conservative” vote actually runs contrary to the Constitution, but it serves as a starting point.
You seem to want me to cherry-pick instances in the same manner as this article, but I will not. Indeed, part of my complaint is that cherry-picking expository issues leads to an inaccurate picture of any candidate. If I were to do so, I would be painting him as more fiscally conservative than he really is, which is not my goal.
Your response feels unhinged to me. If you really want to know exactly how fiscally conservative he is, go look for yourself. If I cherry pick a vote here and there for you, it won’t convince you anyway. Seriously… go look for yourself and if you are honest with yourself I think you will find that in Santorum we have a candidate that is about 75% fiscal conservative and maybe 66% Constitutional conservative, at least as far as his past voting record goes.
The way he’s talking right now is about 90% fiscal and constitutional conservative (as I would measure it, which is probably a little bit different than you would). I understand that this might just be talk, but I’ll take a 66% record plus 90% talk over his two rivals’ words and records any day, and then I will do my best to hold his feet to the fire afterward. I wish I had a better option, but I don’t.
I think your definition of the TEA Party is completely out of wack.
the Tea party wasn’t started to fight abortion, contraceptives or any other SOCIAL issue.
The Tea Party is STRICTLY an economic liberty movement. Stop the spending. Stop the taxation. Thats where it stops…
Sadly it seems the tea party has been hijacked by social conservatives, as they saw it as their vehicle to force their views down everyones throats.
Now back to your comment about Gingrich. WOah, did you not see Speaker Gingrich in the 90’s drag a liberal president kicking and screaming to sign a balanced budget and welfare reform!?!?!? Thats everything the TEA Party has been calling for… Limited government.
Face it, as ugly as a person Gingrich is, he is the only one that has actually walked the walk on limited government… you can claim Santuckabee is as pure as snow, but sorry, he is a big government statist just like Romney.
The tenor of your reply reflects the amount of thought and research that went into the positions it advances.
Yes, I was watching in the 90s when Gingrich vacillated between conservatism and progressivism as it suited his needs. For as many times as he “lead” his conservative colleagues against Bill Clinton’s expansionism, he betrayed them by “reaching across the aisle” to “partner” on “common goals”. This is ultimately why that same conservative House ousted him, not because of any supposed shading dealings of which he was eventually acquitted. This is the exact same pattern of behavior that eventually landed him on a couch with Nancy Pelosi with an earnest look on his face, promoting unconstitutional intrusions on the free market in the name of protecting us from fictitious peril. It is the same pattern of behavior that led him to embrace a FEDERAL health care mandate and lobby for it long and loud.
You, sir, know not of what you speak. This is a dangerous, immoral man who will say anything to one day sit in the cushy chair on the plane he was once sent to the back of.
As for Santorum’s supposed social conservative agenda, he has mentioned none. The mandate for private concerns to be forced to pay for contraception is not a social conservative issue. It is a Constitutional issue. Where are you seeing this social conservative agenda of his? I don’t care if his personal values are socially conservative. My own take on it is that these matters belong at the state and local level and I have seen nothing in his platform that crosses that line for me. He has left such matters out of his platform and his speeches. He can’t help it if the socially liberal press keep trying to bait him in interviews and change the topic to what they perceive as his weakness.
So far he seems to have the same pattern as Reagan on this: personally socially conservative, in favor of states’ rights, not looking to push that agenda on the nation or make it a foundational issue in his campaign. Is he pro-life? Of course, but you have to understand that for those who are pro-life (or, if you like, anti-abortion), it is not a social issue… it’s no different than murder to them. Besides which, his stance on this is no different than Gingrich’s.
Any comparison between Santorum and Huckabee cannot be more than situationally based. Huckabee was practically running for Pastor-in-Chief. He mentioned his faith almost every other sentence. He made social issues a central part of his platform and had a long voting history of throwing liberty under the bus to promote his own view of morality. He made biggoted statements regarding an opponent’s religion because he didn’t fit his notion of Christian orthodoxy.
Santorum, like Huckabee, is religious and personally socially conservative. The similarities end there, sorry. I supported Romney in the last primary for the same reason I am supporting Santorum now: the least-Progressive viable candidate still standing.
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