NDAA moving forward in Congress

The very same week Gallup released a poll showing that fear and distrust of the federal government is at a near record high, the Congress is poised to move forward on the National Defense Authorization Act, which would allow for the indefinite detention of Americans:

Congress is pressing ahead with a massive $662 billion defense bill that requires military custody for terrorism suspects linked to al-Qaida, including those captured within the U.S., with lawmakers hoping their last-minute revisions will mollify President Barack Obama and eliminate a veto threat.

Leaders of the House and Senate Armed Services Committees announced late Monday that they had reached agreement on the policy-setting legislation that had gotten caught up in an escalating fight on whether to treat suspected terrorists as prisoners of war or criminals in the civilian justice system.

Responding to personal appeals from Obama and his national security team, the lawmakers added language on national security waivers and other changes that they hoped would ensure administration support for the overall bill.

“I assured the president that we were working on additional assurances, that the concerns were not accurate,” Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin, D-Mich., who spoke to Obama last week, told reporters at a news conference. “That we’d do everything we could to make sure they were allayed, and met.”

White House officials said Tuesday they were reviewing the bill. It was unclear whether they would hold firm on the veto threat.

While apologists for the language claim that this is needed to fight terrorism, the same rationale was given for passage of the PATRIOT Act. However, the legislation was only used for “terrorism” three times in FY 2009. And don’t believe what so-called “conservatives” tell you, it has not been used 42 times to “thwart” acts of terrorism.

And despite veto threats from the White House because of the “indefinite detention” language, Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI), who has defended the NDAA, claims that the administration asked for protections for American citizens and lawful residents to be removed from the bill:

With a vote likely coming as soon as this this week, you need to call your representatives in Congress and politely tell them vote against the National Defense Authorization Act.

This is unconstitutional! If you pass this you will be voted out of office. Oh wait you will probably remove us before that can happen. This is a discgrase and God forgives you.

Lynda Freet's picture

This is atrocious.

After much thought and discussion, I think Sections 1031 and 1032 aim at two things a) insuring that people like Padilla and Hamdi never get to court and jury trial and can be detained and abused by the military b) to expand coverage beyond the more egregious acts of Padilla and Hamdi to things like recruiting, mobilizing, indirectly funding Al Qeada or our war enemies (“substantial support”).

Cchicken-hawks (most hawks never fought in a war) want the military and contracted or CIA interrogators get a first crack - literally - at people like Padilla. Not just for information, but to inflict cruel and unusual punishment (mind and body breaking torture and near torture) for at least a few years. Then even if their Habeus petition succeeds or the President waives, they don’t have to worry that a court or jury will allow them to go unpunished. The torture and bear torture will have been broken them for life.

They drove Padilla nuts. They are doing it with Manning.

DrG's picture

I pledge allegiance to the Lamb
With all my strength
With all I am
I will seek to honor His commands
I pledge allegiance to the Lamb

- Ray Boltz

We all no longer pledge our allegiance to the Flag except now we will pledge our allegiance to the Lamb of God.

I invite you all to ask Jesus to forgive you of your sins. You cannot trust the Government anymore. Trust Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior.

God bless.

Josh Taylor's picture

I don’t understand this post. Are you suggesting that there is a government led by the deceased “Jesus” (aka Yeshua, which translates to Joshua not Jesus btw).

Anonymous's picture

I thought we were trying to reduce immigration… Who is this jesus and why is he going to forgive them? Did he get deported or something?

Jim_Bob's picture

fuck this shit, if it passes ima ditch to canada as soon as soon as i can

Anonymous's picture

what if all the fathers and the sons
went marching with their guns
drawn on Washington
that would seal the deal,
show if it was real,
this supposed freedom. - Tunde Adebimpe

Anonymous's picture

There are lots of people who do a lot of things just to move up in the Congress. I think all of this needs something in the Government. - Corporate Reputation Management

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