Conservatives: Ignore Taxes, Just Focus On The Spending Cuts

Editor’s note: While the larger point of the post is a good topic for debate, Fortenberry was a bad example. According to the scorecards released by the Club for Growth and FreedomWorks, Fortenberry hasn’t been a friend to the taxpayer on fiscal issues. Thanks to Matt Hoskins for bringing this to our attention.

Author’s note: Yes, kudos to Matt Hoskins. I’ve added an update below.

Last week, Rod Dreher at the American Conservative magazine wrote about John Fortenberry, a Republican congresscritter from Nebraska who is considering a run for the seat of retiring Republican Senator Mike Johanns. What has Dreher annoyed —understandably — is that the Senate Conservatives Fund has come out against Fortenberry. Why? Because Fortenberry is “too liberal” on taxes:

“We can already say that we won’t be able to support Congressman Fortenberry if he runs. His record on spending, debt, and taxes in the House is just too liberal. Republicans in Nebraska deserve better,” said Senate Conservatives Fund Executive Director Matt Hoskins. SCF, which was started by conservative Jim DeMint and involved itself in the 2012 Nebraska Senate GOP primary, is looking to identify a candidate it can get behind, Hoskins added.

Dreher argues that’s completely bunk. In an interview with the Congressman last year, he wrote:

Last year, Fortenberry, who holds an undergraduate degree in economics and master’s degrees in public policy and theology, raised eyebrows by refusing to renew his commitment to the Americans for Tax Reform pledge never to vote for a tax increase. By declining to bow towards ATR president Grover Norquist, a pro forma ritual for Republican lawmakers, Fortenberry signaled a willingness to rethink the right’s tax orthodoxy in light of changing times.

Dreher goes on to blast the SCF and other conservatives for attacking Fortenberry on taxes:

Read the entire interview and tell me that this staunchly Catholic Republican is not a conservative. The real problem the DeMintors have with him is that he wouldn’t sign Norquist’s pledge, and he thinks the GOP needs to rethink its tax policy in light of current realities, versus sticking with an ideological orthodoxy that is arguably plutocratic, not conservative. They may also oppose him because he agreed to the fiscal cliff deal — he explained his reasons for voting for it here — and because he once said it was irresponsible to talk about impeaching Obama.

If conservative fundraising activists reject out of hand a candidate like Jeff Fortenberry — with an 86 percent lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union — on grounds that he’s too liberal on economic issues, who on earth will they accept? Do they even care about winning elections?

There’s a lot in the piece about Catholic conservatives, which is where Dreher thinks a lot of this is going (at least, from what I can see) but I want to focus on the tax portion of this equation. And that’s to say this: it’s time Republicans and movement conservatives pivot away from taxes.

I certainly don’t want to say that folks should completely drop the fight on taxes. The capital gains tax and the death tax (aka the “estate” tax) are horribly odious taxes that should be eliminated. The corporate income tax is higher than any other nation in the OECD and needs to be brought back in line. And I like what Grover Norquist and ATR are doing to fight to good fight.

But here’s the problem: taxes have only a marginal effect on the economy and individual liberty. As much as it stinks to give some of your money to the taxman every year, you can still live with and get around taxes. Meanwhile, there are many other liberty-robbing government programs out there that are far, far worse. Be honest with yourself, what takes away more of your liberty and freedom, domestic spying, drone strikes, threats of indefinite detention, the TSA, and the War on Drugs….or a 23% tax rate?

Liberals know this. They know the numbers are on their side. They can look to the past and show when we had a top tax bracket of 70% and say “See! We had higher taxes in the past and we were fine! Why can’t we raise taxes now?” Now, you can say “Well, there were other factors involved, namely the fact that every other country had been flattened after World War II, business was booming…” etc. etc. etc. But that doesn’t help the conservative argument, it just shows that taxes aren’t everything and that there are ways around them.

Worse, Democrats and liberals are already hard at work removing that ammunition from the conservative movement’s armory. Remember that ridiculously high corporate income tax rate? Guess what: Obama wants to reduce it from 35% down to 28%, which would be between Norway and Australia. So you can’t really fight on that front; it would be wasted resources.

What we need to be focusing on is spending—spending and regulations. We need to focus what is actually holding the economy back and hurting people. We here at United Liberty document hundreds of programs that should not exist. Those programs cost money. Eliminating them would simultaneously cut the budget and drastically increase the liberty Americans have today. Programs like the EPA, Department of Homeland Security, the drone war, the Drug War, etc. etc. and for emphasis, etcera. We also need to cut back economic regulations, which according to the Competitive Enterprise Institute is costing the economy roughly $1.7 trillion in compliance costs. That’s nearly $2 trillion we could be spending on payroll and hiring more workers, but which is instead wasted on making sure we dot our i’s and cross our t’s to please some government pencil pusher. That’s really hurting people out there.

More importantly, spending itself is the greatest tax of all, as Milton Friedman, the great libertarian economist, said:

Keep your eye on one thing and one thing only: how much government is spending, because that’s the true tax … If you’re not paying for it in the form of explicit taxes, you’re paying for it indirectly in the form of inflation or in the form of borrowing. The thing you should keep your eye on is what government spends, and the real problem is to hold down government spending as a fraction of our income, and if you do that, you can stop worrying about the debt.

Considering conservatives are already up in arms over spending cuts in the sequester, they’re already desiring to raise taxes on all of you. That’s a pretty damn big fail.

While we should hold the line, for now, on tax increases, fighting for tax cuts is a useless gesture. Until and unless we get government spending back in line, and if we can, hopefully restore some sanity to America’s monetary policy, taxes are going to be a useless sideshow. They’re just not as important as other factors we can—and should—be pursuing.

It’s time to ignore taxes, and stop punishing people like Rep. Fortenberry who dared step away from the tax pledge. It’s time to start focusing on spending, and the real problems that America faces.

UPDATE: In a funny way, though, this story still comes around to knock Fortenberry. As my editor has noted, Fortenberry doesn’t exactly have a stellar record on spending either. As Matt Hoskins put in the comments below, he voted to give money to the Lobster Institute, of all places. He has a 61% lifetime record from Club for Growth, and a 68% score from FreedomWorks. Not exactly great on spending. So then, when Fortenberry complains about high taxes and how the system is “plutocratic,” I have to ask: “Then why keep spending, when spending is taxing?”

So, mea culpa. I was focusing on the larger message I was trying to get across and not the details of the springboard, which is where I goofed. I hope that doesn’t terribly detract from the overall message. Conservatives really do need to be focusing more on spending than taxation, but regrettably, Fortenberry doesn’t focus on either very well. That is unfortunate. It’s exactly people like Fortenberry who need to go.

The reason the Senate Conservatives Fund cannot support Congressman Fortenberry if he runs for the U.S. Senate is not just because he supports higher taxes. It’s also because he is one of the biggest spending Republicans in the House of Representatives.

Congressman Fortenberry has a long record of supporting omnibus spending bills that are stuffed full of pork. He’s also specifically voted to protect earmarks for the Lobster Institute, the National Mule and Packers Museum, and the Bronx Council for the Arts, just to name a few. And when Congressman Fortenberry had a chance to support conservative budget proposals that would have cut spending and moved us closer to a balanced budget, he voted against them.

So even if you want to ignore his record on taxes, he should be opposed for his record on spending.

Matt Hoskins's picture

See the update above.

jpye's picture

Kudos to you sir. I’ve added an update of mine own above.

jdkolassa's picture

I dont agree with Ann Coulter on most issues, but she was right on Stossel’s show.

Libertarians are cowards, effete, despicable when it comes to fighting for politically incorrect, real cuts.

Departments of Education, Commerce, Interior, Energy, HUD, all should be sent back to the States. Medicare, Medicaid, SS should be sent back to States or abolished.

But Libertarians spend 90% of their time on drug legalization. Thats why no one except 1-2% of American public (kooks) takes you seriously.

Has the libertarian party ever gotten more than 1-2% of national vote in Presidential elections? Ever?

Reading List:

http://www.toqonline.com/archives/v4n4/TOQv4n4MacDonald.pdf
http://toqonline.com/archives/v11n1/TOQv11n1Lote.pdf
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0759672229

Patriot's picture

Then please share with us why you have felt the need to comment so much on a libertarian blog?

tknighton's picture

There are a few problems with this:

1) We don’t spend 90% of the time on marijuana legalization. We spend maybe 5% of our total time on it. The other 95% are spent on opposing war, opposing government spending, opposing crony capitalism, opposing the NDAA, opposing drones, opposing anti-gay pushers, opposing stupid regulations, opposing the expansion of government elsewhere…like, you know, Obamacare. So I think you may be getting a distorted image of what we’re all on about.

2) 48% of Americans agree with legalizing marijuana, according to Gallup. Are 48% of Americans kooks?

3) We’re terribly sorry that we talk too much about marijuana legalization, but unless you want the police to bust down your door while your family is sleeping, shoot your dog, tie up your kids, rummage through your house in front of you, beat you, break your furniture, and possibly drag you away on other unrelated charges, I suggest you might want to listen. Because it’s more than just marijuana. It’s also about the government barging into your house unannounced and without cause. And these days, that could easily translate into a campaign to take your guns.

4) Yes, the political system sucks now, but as I have written about several times before, that is based on ideas, but on the fact we have a horribly outdated voting system and a two-party system which casts any vote for anyone other than a major party as a “wasted vote.” That’s not marketing and ideology, that’s clinical psychology.

5) Not all libertarians are members of the Libertarian Party. I’m not. I’m a libertarian, not a Libertarian. They are two different things. For instance, Rand Paul is a libertarian. But, since he is a Republican, he is not a Libertarian.

6) All those cuts you mention above, all those departments that should be abolished, having the entitlements sent back to the states or abolished, where do you think those ideas originated? Hint: It wasn’t Heritage. Nope, they come from the two major libertarian think tanks in DC, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, or the Cato Institute. Also Reason magazine, which ran a series interviewing experts back in 2010 or 2011 which featuring them cutting all sorts of things, like the Department of Agriculture and the Department of Education. Cato has the plan to privatize Social Security, and abolish the Department of Homeland Security. CEI ran a series that saw the Departments of Commerce, Labor, and I believe Energy all get abolished. So those ideas you want libertarians to focus on? We’re not just focusing on them. We’re the guys who made them in the first place.

So, “Patriot,” I hope that I have helped dispel any myths you may have had about our movement and our ideology. (And this blog.) Feel free to ask more questions at any time, I am always happy to help people understand.

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