Are we still arguing about Chick-fil-A?

Did you know that the most pressing issue facing the United States right now is whether or not a national restaurant chain opposes gay marriage? It’s news to me. Here I thought that that there were much more serious issues facing our nation, such as the economy, the budget deficit, economic turmoil in Europe, rising gas prices, and the on-going occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq. Apparently, I was wrong.
In case you’ve been under a rock the last few weeks, during an interview with the Baptist Press, Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy expressed oppositon to gay marriage, a position that wasn’t too terribly surprising given that his company has donated heavily to “pro-family” organizations. Cathy’s comments, which are grounded in his Christian beliefs, have earned the ire of pro-gay marriage groups, who called for a boycott of the restaurant chain, which is a dumb idea. The mayors of three cities also told the media that Chick-fil-A wasn’t welcome in their towns.
Seriously, this is the most absurd fake outrage I’ve ever seen in my life. Don’t get me wrong, I support gay marriage. However, I also believe in free speech. Sure, free speech occasionally comes with consequences — you have the right to say what you want, but you’d better be willing to live with it, but many of the people who have gotten on a soap box about this don’t exactly have their hands clean. As Conor Friedersdorf notes, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel worked for President Bill Clinton and President Barack Obama at times when they opposed gay marriage:
Many voices have beat me to clucking at Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel for suggesting that its appropriate to prevent Chick-fil-A from opening a Windy City store because its CEO opposes gay marriage. UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh explained why the threatened action is a violation of the First Amendment. Glenn Greenwald insisted that all liberals should object to the awful precedent it would set. Wrote Kevin Drum at Mother Jones, “You don’t hand out business licenses based on whether you agree with the political views of the executives. Not in America, anyway.”
All that’s left to say is what Michael Brendan Dougherty alludes to: As mayor of a safely Democratic city, Emanuel avows that “Chick-fil-A’s values are not Chicago values. They’re not respectful of our residents, our neighbors and our family members. And if you’re gonna be part of the Chicago community, you should reflect Chicago values.” In his initial formulation, since walked back, opposition to gay marriage is cast as so awful a transgression as to render one unfit to sell Chicagoans fast food! Yet Emanuel had no problem helping Barack Obama to attain the most powerful office in America while Obama was against gay marriage, a position the president clung to until this year. Nor did he shy away from Bill Clinton, helping him to win the Democratic primary in 1992 and serving as an adviser even after Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act.
And that’s another point that should be made. If you’re expressing outrage at Chick-fil-A, why the hell were you not protesting President Obama before his “evolution” on the issue just a couple of months ago?
What Chick-fil-A does with a consumer’s money after the point-of-sale is none of anyone’s concern. They’re a private company, and one that has been run exceptionally well. And if you just can’t get over it, just don’t eat there — as ridiculous as the idea of a boycott is.
As far as the outrage over Chick-fil-A is concerned, Andrew Sullivan, who is gay, provides us with some wise words:
Intimidating a business because its chairman expresses his perfectly legitimate – if to me, misguided – views, should have absolutely nothing to do with a civil rights movement. Civil rights movements are about expanding freedom, including for those with whom we disagree. The impulse by some well-meaning heterosexual allies to ban or shut down or somehow use the power of the state to police thought in this way is simply anathema to what we ought to stand for. There is no contradiction between marriage equality and a robust defense of the rights of those who oppose marriage equality – including maximal religious freedom and maximal free speech. In fact, it is vital that we eschew such tactics, as they distract from a positive argument that has been solidly winning converts for two decades.
The point is that we all have to live together even while we passionately disagree. That toleration is the challenge of our time, and it goes both ways.
If we gays now try to suppress others’ rights, we have become nothing less than what we have opposed for so long. And there’s a worrying tendency – more pronounced on the right than left, but still potent on the far left – not simply to oppose the arguments of the other side in a cultural debate, but to delegitimize them as people of equal standing. But calling a bunch of good-faith people bigots and leveraging government power against them is, in my mind, no morally different than calling a bunch of people perverts and leveraging government power against them.
I don’t believe that Dan Cathy is a bigot, though I completely disagree with him. I believe he is a Christian who is expressing his religious views. The real bigots here are those that are seeking to penalize a company for an opinion with which they disagree. But as far as I’m concerned, there are more pressing issues facing our country than the opinions expressed by the head of a chicken restaurant.
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I’m saying if he had said he supported gay marriage then southern bible belt cities would do the same thing to them.
Its not un-american, American vote with their wallets and for local politicians to support their views. If people don’t like what Chicago is doing they can elect new members of the city council and mayor.
They can lead a nation wide boycott if they like. Just like the southern bus boycott for integration.
Socially Americans put values around the businesses they frequent. So those who take sides are choosing to alienate certain demographics.
Is what the citys are doing by limiting zoning legal? No, probably not, but Chil Fila would spend lots of money in court fighting to win, then open store that would probably be boycotted. I think they just got a clear message of where they stand due to their presidents comments.
He said “the biblical definition of the family unit” and that he prays “God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to try to redefine what marriage is about.”
So he called these people arrogant, and they say back to him, don’t come to my town. Seems fair. Insult a community don’t expect them to be nice back to you and your yummy chicken sandwich.
Please point me to the “southern” movement to boycott Amazon.com because of Jeff Bezos’s support of a ballot initiative in Washington State to legalize same-sex marriage.
I’m no fan of the SoCons, but you’re making an assertion here that I think requires supporting evidence
A boycott is one thing, but what these tyrannical officials in Boston and Chicago are doing goes far beyond a boycott.
Right, just like you can’t find a Starbucks anywhere below the Mason Dixon line, right? Or a JC Penney? Or a Target? Or Allstate Insurance?
The bottom line is that what’s un-American is this notion that local officials are empowered to punish people for their political views, as though this were Russia. It’s not “speech” for an official to deny somebody the right to make a living. Just because someone got elected, doesn’t give him untrammeled authority to violate people’s rights, otherwise what the hell is the Bill of Rights even for? The Founders knew we’d have elections, after all—but they also knew that elected officials would overstep their bounds. And besides, most of the people who make these kinds of local licensing decisions aren’t elected in the first place.
You’re wrong not only on the law, but also on the wisdom of such an approach, especially considering that when people are actually allowed to vote on this issue, your side practically always loses.
“I’m saying if he had said he supported gay marriage then southern bible belt cities would do the same thing to them.”
Nope. Ninety-nine percent of corporate America has lined up behind same sex marriage and none have been refused licenses to do business based on the whim of a conservative mayor. So your balance is false.
If it’s so terrible to disapprove of Gays’ behavior, and attempts to be considered “normal”, how can we justify persecuting Jerry Sandusky for expressing his in-born sexual preference?
Man-boy is just the next sexual minorty to come “out” and be mainstream.
Oled
A big difference between an act between two consenting adults and an act partaken with a child who apparently gave no consent, nor was in a position to consent.
Oh, I totally understand the difference, Tom. But Sandusky doesn’t. He’s just born that way. He can’ change.
Unless, of course, you believe that we’re in charge of what we do with our private parts. But that would mean that men who have sex with men can’t claim any similairty to black people. Bedroom behavior is comporable to bedroom behavior, not race.
Absolutely correct. The progressives are sooner or later going go progress right into child sex. To you that might be unbelievable. Twenty years ago would you have thought that today’s social vandalism would have been impossible.
They’re already doing. Type B4U Act into a search engine.
They use all the same arguments as the homosexuals do. That’s because most of them are homosexuals.
I love how “pro-family” is now a perjorative…does that mean progressives are “anti-family”? I think so. We should start using that term in the same sneering, condescending way they use “anti-choice”. President Obama is anti-family. Progressives are anti-family. Anyone who boycotts Chick-Fil-A is anti-family. And so on. Say it loud enough and often enough and it will stick.
Will do, Nina.
I don’t think it is a big stretch to imagine SoCo’s would boycott a business with opposing views. Remember they called for a boycott on Disney because they gave life partners insurance and called for a boycott of JCP when they had Ellen Degeneres do a commercial and had a gay couple in a commercial.
Socons might try a private boycot, but they would not be so monumentally stupid and disrespectful of the constitution to use their governmental power to punish a company for their owners private views. I haven’t seen any cnonservatively governed city denying business liscenses to Ben and Jerrys, they respect the constitution too much.
Yes, conservatives sometimes organize boycotts. They do not, however, pull a Mayor Menino and tell businesses that they can’t operate within their jurisdiction because the owner has expressed ideas they don’t like. That’s tyranny.
Your ‘both sides do it’ meme doesn’t fly.
I plan on boycotting Chik-fil-A every Sunday. That’ll show ‘em.
Me too, no buy on Sunday. But I will fill up on Saturday.
@Anonymous801: certain people might encourage a personal boycott of Disney or Penney’s, sure. Can you, however, show me a conservative mayor or governor who has grandstanded about Disney or Penney’s—or Apple or Starbucks or Progressive Insurance—not being welcome in their jurisdiction? Didn’t think so.
Here’s my suggestion to Jason.
If same sex marriage is just a stupid distraction from the real issues, then don’t blog about it.
Also, the only people occupying Iraq are Iraqis.
Hey, didn’t you support that war?
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