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Obama’s biggest strength is his foreign policy, though I don’t exactly think he’d be an anti-war president. O’Reilly is so annoying. His whole “regular working guy” schtick is a bit condescending too.

Unfortunately, it is pretty well certain that the GOP, under McCain, will not return to a non-interventionist foreign policy. Actually, the last time that point of view really held much sway in the GOP was in the 1950s, when Robert Taft came very close to being the presidential nominee. The Cold War really took hold in the minds of most in both parties after that, and the non-interventionist approach to defeating communism was pushed under the table.

In any case, McCain is completely owned by the neo-conservatives, and that philosophy has become so deeply ingrained in the party (thanks to the virtual merger of the neo-cons with the Christian right) that it will be extremely difficult to undo this. It will, at the very least, take a defeat of McCain in November, along with the loss of several seats in the House and Senate, to really get the GOP to wake up and return to a philosophy it once held to. Even then, it won’t happen overnight as if by magic.

The other aspect of this, of course, is that most self-described “conservatives” have forgotten about the Constitution and its limits on the activities of the federal government, and have instead come to embrace varying degrees of welfare statism, corporatism, and authoritarianism. If foreign policy were the only area where the change in philosophy needs to take place, that would be one thing. But the party has lost its way in virtually every other area of policy as well, rhetoric notwithstanding.

Of course, Obama, if elected, will change very little of anything, even foreign policy, although quite possibly his approach to the latter will be less aggressive. On domestic policy, there at least is the hope that most Republican and many of the so-called “blue dog” Democrats will stop the worst of his proposals. Under a McCain presidency, the likelihood of such opposition almost evaporates, especially during the first 100 days. McCain (and, for that matter, Palin) have promised more in the way of corporate subsidies as a solution to energy, even though the word “subsidy” doesn’t appear in the campaign rhetoric.

The next four years would appear to be bleak, no matter who wins… except that there is an army of people who were deeply motivated to action at the Rally For The Republic last week, and this army isn’t going away. As Ron Paul has said, our time is coming soon. We just have to hang in there, and recognize that as much as we may wish for certain people to change, that is unlikely to happen. New people, who have a true understanding of these principles, will need to step up to the plate and become involved, and that will happen, provided they do not fall into the many traps and holes that pervade Washington, D.C.

Except that Obama fully intends, as is his function in America, to bring the war of wars right to American soil, onto our streets and into our homes. He’s on a mission and he wants America to burn irreparably from the inside out and the outside in.

Wow. Robert appears to be off his meds. Please, Robert, explain to us exactly how Obama “intends” to do this. I’d love to hear some specifics.

Obama wants to wage war against my freedom and pocketbook. If a Republican will say “Read my lips” and still do it anyways, then a uber-liberal like obama will too.

Also - Robert please elaborate; I am not disagreeing with you but do want to know more.

Those were some really good points, Charles. Since I was born in 1986, I’ve lived through about five military interventions - the Gulf War, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq, and that’s not counting stuff like Somalia and the bombing of Afghanistan and Iraq throughout the Clinton years. We’ve got an education system in a miserable state on our own shores, with drop out rates ABOVE 50% in some cities. We need to take care of our own problems.

Both Obama and McCain will wage war on our liberties and our pocketbooks (through taxes and inflation). Obama is perhaps somewhat more honest in that he admits to wanting to increase certain taxes, as well as usurp certain liberties (particularly the 2nd Amendment). But McCain’s “lower taxes” rhetoric is certainly not believable in light of his poor voting record on taxes (nor his supposed support for the 2nd Amendment). And we have seen at least two other recent Republican presidents (the first president Bush, and Reagan) sign bills increasing taxes, in spite of either promises not to do so (Bush), or pledges to reduce taxes (Reagan). In the case of Reagan, there was what was at the time the largest tax increase in history in 1982, one year after his famous income tax reductions; and there was his tax reform proposal of 1985 (a “bipartisan” one at that), which actually made the tax code more complicated and confusing (it was supposed to be “tax simplification”).

The bottom line: it’s important to distinguish between rhetoric and reality (measured by actual deeds).

Me is big neo conservative me is a feared of terrirists will kill my puppie

People, GE is doing business with Iran and the US sell weapons to them so give me a freaking break.

If Iran was going to do something it would have happened a long time ago. Iran owns 25 percent of OPEC and the people that live inside Iran hate the government for being corrupt just like we do back home.

Iran will have a war with itself before they have a war with the the world.